Our most advanced template yet
Mashy for Lemur gives you amazing control over almost all of Traktor’s features. You get instant access to beatmashing, beatslicing, loops and effects as well as simple, intuitive control over loop recording and Sample Decks.
“The best [Traktor] template currently available” –
Winston Ray, DJ Tech Tools
Features
Features:
- Large pads for easy hotcue juggling
- Full support for Traktor’s new Macro Effects
- Fader ‘Cut’ button for quick cuts
- Intuitive control of 2 decks and 2 Sample Decks
- Special ‘Prepare’ page for easy track cueing / marking
- Hotcue, Beatmash, Beatslice and Looping modes.
- Shift key provides dual functions for most controls
- Easily apply additional effects while beatmashing or Hotcue juggling
- Full Loop Recorder control
System Requirements
System Requirements (PC & Mac):
- Traktor Pro 2 – Around £60 / $89 from Native Instruments
- iPad – Around £400 / $500 from Amazon
- Lemur – Around £35 / $50 from iTunes
- Lemur Daemon – Free – Download ‘Lemur Installer’ to install
- Lemur Editor – Free – Download ‘Lemur Installer’ to install
Instructions
Setup & Usage Instructions:
Installation: OSX and Windows
IMPORTANT! Ensure you have installed all the programs listed in System Requirements and that you’re using the latest versions.
- Connect Lemur to your computer. Use the video guides on the Liine support page for instructions on how to connect to your Mac or PC. If you’re connecting to Traktor on a PC and you’re using Virtual MIDI Ports, eg., LoopMIDI, make sure you use separate ports for MIDI In and MIDI Out.
IMPORTANT – You must connect through WiFi MIDI or USB MIDI on Daemon Channel 0.
- Load the template into Lemur. Use the video guides on the Liine support page for instructions on how to load a template.
- Open Traktor and open Preferences. Click the large ‘Import’ button at the bottom of the screen and browse to the downloaded file, ‘Mashy_Lemur.tsi’.
- You’ll see a popup window. Ensure everything is left ticked. The effects will not work properly otherwise.
- Open Preferences > Controller Manager. In the ‘Devices’ drop-down menu, you should see two pages. Ensure that for each of these the In-Port is set to Daemon Input 0 and the Out-Port is set to Daemon Output 0.
- Press ‘Shift’ on the template to load the effects for the Performance Panel and Stop effect. You should see the effects, BEATM, SLICER and TTFX loaded into FX Units 3 & 4. It’s important that these specific effects are loaded for the Performance Panel functions and the Stop effect to work. If you don’t see these effects loaded, just import the template again and everything should work OK.
Usage:
Page 1 – Decks A / B
Page 2 – Decks C / D
Page 2 – Track Preparation
Controls in more detail
NOTE: Anything written in Yellow means that the Shift button needs to be held down to access this feature. Anything written in green is just for information (and not a control).
Download
Download:
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load is and running, looking good…
suggestion
in prepare page
is it possible to add physic to the scratch bar, so it can return to the middle when not using?
just a thought, excellent job!!
That’s an excellent idea, thank you! Yes, that should be easy enough to do. It’ll be added soon
Ah, not quite as easy as I though! It’s easy enough to make the bar snap back to 0, but not without it taking the sound along with it. I’ll need to do some scripting on this one so that once you release your finger the track stays in the same position but the bar snaps back to 0. This will take a little longer
i see what u mean.
thank you.
Hey!! Excellent template man!! Just a quick question, how can I change the 3 eq resets to kills??
Thanks!
Funnily enough, I was very close to adding a kill function where you could switch between resets and kills. I found though that just pressing the bottom left of the dial worked as a pretty effective kill switch, so left it out in the end. I didn’t want to complicate things!
However, if you want to change the resets permanently, you first need to un-map the reset buttons. There are 9 in total, 3 for each deck. Do this by deleting the following commands (in Preferences > Controller Manager – select the ‘Perform’ page from the ‘Device’ drop down menu):
Pay very close attention to the Channel and CC numbers here. You don’t want to delete the EQ rotary commands by mistake.
Delete:
EQ Low – Deck A – Ch 4 CC 34
EQ Mid – Deck A – Ch 4 CC 35
EQ High – Deck A – Ch 4 CC 36
EQ Low – Deck B – Ch 4 CC 37
EQ Mid – Deck B – Ch 4 CC 38
EQ High – Deck B – Ch 4 CC 39
EQ Low – Deck C – Ch 4 CC 42
EQ Mid – Deck C – Ch 4 CC 43
EQ High – Deck C – Ch 4 CC 44
EQ Low – Deck D – Ch 4 CC 45
EQ Mid – Deck D – Ch 4 CC 46
EQ High – Deck D – Ch 4 CC 47
You now need to map the EQ Kill commands to these buttons. Do this as follows:
Click ‘Add In’ and select Mixer > EQ > EQ Low Kill
Click ‘Add In’ and select Mixer > EQ > EQ Mid Kill
Click ‘Add In’ and select Mixer > EQ > EQ High Kill
Assign each of these to Deck A in the “Assignment’ drop-down menu.
Change them all to ‘Toggle’ from the ‘Interaction Mode’ drop-down menu (assuming you want them to toggle, of course! Leave them as ‘Hold’ if you only want to apply the kill when holding the button down)
Highlight each command and press ‘Learn’. Then press the corresponding buttons on Deck A of the template to map these to the old reset buttons.
Repeat this process for Decks B, C and D.
All the reset buttons should now be working permanently as kill switches.
^^ Sorry, that should read *12* reset commands in total, not 9.
Thanks a lot man it’s done!! Cheers!
No problem
you guys rock!
works flawless, multitouch and all.
Thanks so much!
hiya! everything seems to be working perfect for me, except for the last tab the (prepare) tab doesnt seem to be reacting with traktor at all on my end… otherwise, very happy with it, im inspired to make a 3 deck + 1 sample deck version thats quite similar!
There are two pages of commands (one for decks a / b & c / d, and one for the prepare page). Sounds like there’s a problem in the setup of the second page.
Make sure you loaded the template using the large ‘Import’ button. This will ensure that both pages of commands are loaded.
If you’re still having trouble, make sure that Daemon Input 0 and Daemon Output 0 are selected for the In Port and Out Port drop down menus for BOTH pages of commands.
oh i just realised there’s a second page for prepare – ill give that a play and ill report back
this is so amazing…. im going to try to make a 3deck+1effects version, ill probably post my questions in the forum as i go, but thank you this is seriously awesome!
does this template have an echo freeze button or a table spinback? Looks amazing!
No to either I’m afraid. Spinback hasn’t been possible since Traktor v 2.1.1 and having an echo freeze uses up an entire FX unit. It would have meant sacrificing lots of effects to include an echo freeze so it was left out.
i have registered like 5 times and still cannot see the download link. what is going on?
Sorry you’re having trouble with the download. A few people have had trouble with this and I think it’s related to not having Javascript enabled in your browser.
I’ll email you the file.
Can’t access dl links..
I’ve just emailed you the file.
many many thx Andrew!!
no links
fixd thnks
Hello,
Thanks for this update on Lemur, I was using previous version with touchOSC and see a couple of changes: no problem and find it better to use.
I undertand that MIDI control is currently limited to the first row of the Remix Deck: there is already some hacks around using the mouse emulation and I really hope NI will open all the cells with all params in a near future.
I have mapped the audio signal level of each slot of Remix Deck C and D on the “Deck C/D” page: as everything was there on the lemur: just wondering if there was a particular reason it’s not present in your template (wondering if some latency/lemur memory was causing problems).
I might have also to edit the FX list on the Lemur template, it looks like there is difference between this and the list of available FX in my Traktor Pro 2.5: will get back on this when fixed on my side.
I also like the 3 tab in one template as I have other templates I am using with Ableton.
Thank you really much for this great template and Traktor mapping.
There were some problems when mapping individual slot volume levels in TouchOSC (it seemed to slow everything down), so I actually forgot to add these when making the Lemur template.
The FX list is just missing the Filter effect. I had to reduce it to one less effect so that they could all fit on (you’re allowed a maximum of 32 ‘slots’ in Lemur’s drop-down menus). The FX settings were then saved with the TSI, so loading it through the large Import button means that the Filter is left off. I didn’t think this mattered too much as you already have a filter in Traktor’s normal controls.
Ok I understand, thank you really much for your amazing work out there: much appreciated and I actually enjoy playing without any need to touch mouse and screen (I have to mention I use a BCD3000 to handle most the mixing job of track A and B: ipad for FX, track C/D et prepare mode).
Thanks again!
No worries
I am logged and I can’t see the link to download, what happen? thank you
I am look for a template only for effects and samples… which you recommend? thank you
All the templates have standard controls built in as well, so there’s nothing that’s exclusively for effects and samples. The Jog-On template would be the closest to what you’re looking for.
If you’re still having trouble with the download link (around 4% of users have the same issue – it seems to be connected with your browser having Javascript turned off), please email me at digitaldjtools@gmail.com and I’ll email you whatever you need.
Javascript is turned on. I will mail u. Thank you!
No worries. That’s interesting that it’s not working for you with JS turned on though. When you email me, could you just let me know what browser you’re using? I really want to get to the bottom of the problem! As I said, it only affects a small number of people, but it really needs fixing.
Hello, great template! Please can you help me wen you say “IMPORTANT – You must connect through WiFi MIDI or USB MIDI on Daemon Channel 0″ i dont undrstand how to make this on mac. Thanks a lot!
Just follow the setup guide here: http://youtu.be/g69iVWxJZuQ
Hm what file do I upload in itunes? .jzml? Supposed to be a .touchosc file?
You upload the .jzml in iTunes or through Lemur Editor and syncing your device.
Love this layout! It has worked great for me out of the box. One question though, the “scratch” bar on page 3 doesn’t seem to work and doesn’t seem to be mapped to anything.
Advice?
The Scratch function is mapped to the playhead, so moving it forward and back should also move the track forward and back (much like a turntable).
Are any other buttons on this page working? If not, make sure you’ve imported the TSI using the large Import button and you’ve set the In Port and Out Port to Lemur Daemon 0 on BOTH controller mappings (there are two loaded by default).
You also need to be using Traktor v2.1.1 or above.
I checked that as well.
The Seek bar works, as do the other button functions. However, looks like I am running at v2.0.3. I will update and see.
Thanks!
It should work once you’ve updated.
Updated and working now.
Thanks!!
I am a beginner and I was able to configure this emulator and get it working. Thanks. On another note, have you thought of or do you know information about emulating the F1 controller. Maybe even incorporating the F1 controller in Mashy. Thank you so much for creating this. Some of us are not as fortunate to afford a 800 dollar controller. Especially, us that are enjoying the functionality of the software for personal interest.
At the moment, it’s not possible to map the full functionality of new Remix Deck controls to anything other than an F1. NI have effectively locked these controls off. They’re apparently opening these up in the future but not until they’re happy with the F1.
So until then, it’s unlikely you’ll see a full Remix Deck controller on TouchOSC. There’ll certainly be nothing from DigitalDJTools until NI have opened up all the MIDI controls.
There’s been an apparent workaround for TouchOSC posted by M1RFace (see: https://www.facebook.com/M1RFace), but he hasn’t yet revealed how he’s doing this.
There’s also a nice workaround for Lemur here: http://www.traktorbible.com/articles/remix-with-the-lemur.aspx which uses scripting to determine your mouse position, so you can have access to all the Remix Deck slots. It’s a bit fiddly to set up (as it needs to know your screen size and what features you’re displaying), but it works well once it’s been set up properly.
Thank you for your response. I appreciate the time and the information. Take care.
Hi Very impressive efforts on making this, top marks dude. Any chance you send me the files If they will work on a mac as I can’t see the download links.
Just sent you it by email
Hi there,
I find this template awsome ! I already loved to use maschy for Touch OSC but this one works even better for me with the changing effects on the fly ! Thank you so much for THE BEST TEMPLATE out there ! Now, I am not a specialist but this are some toughts about lil improvements. Maybe there is a solution to show track names beeing played somewhere on the template ?. Or the whole playlist would be even better but i don’t think this is possible … Also i was wondering if a shift combo to manipulate eq with the same faders (Linear EQ) as the effects could be incorporated ?? i feel more control over the faders than the knobs personally…
Thank you! I’m glad you like it
Unfortunately, Traktor only outputs MIDI data so it’s not possible to show track names or playlists on anything other than Traktor itself. It just cannot output this kind of data.
I take your point about the EQ though. It’s much easier to control with faders than dials, so I’ll consider this for the next update, so that users have the choice of using either the dials or Shift & faders. Thanks for the suggestions
Just got Lemur on iPad last night and got this immediately.
Just wanted to let you know that in about 10 minutes, I was mixing just as well as I did on my Xponent that I’ve used for the past 2 years.
Thanks for making this purchase worthwhile.
Appreciate it.
Thank you!
Hey I cant download it, please send it to my email. Christiantherager@gmail.com
If you can’t see the download link, you can download it from here instead: http://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/246/
Just downloaded this (I havent updated to traktor 2.5 yet) works great. thank you for taking the time to create and post this.
Will this work side-by-side with an X1?
It should do, although I haven’t tested this. As long as, when you load your TSIs for each device, their ports are set specifically to each device, and not ‘All Ports’, you should be fine.
Mesmo com o login feito eu não consigo enxergar o botão de download, alguém sabe porque?
give me the links! please!!!
Is there going to be an update for Traktor 2.6? The effect drop down box seems to be broken now with all the multi-fx they’ve added. Also the the “Mash” tool doesnt seem to do anything for me (I’m guessing for the same reason as above?). Other than that, this is amazing! Strong work
Lemur will only allow 32 entries maximum in a drop down box, so it’s not possible to fit all of the effects in. It will still work as normal in 2.6 however if you load via the large Import button and leave all of the available options ticked. This way it will load only the 32 effects from previous versions. I’ve thought about updating to include the new effects, but some of the old effects would have to be taken out and it’s a tough decision as to which ones stay and which ones go.
BTW, if you’re still having trouble with the Mash effect and the problem of too many FX loading for the drop-down menu to handle, then just do the same again: load via the large Import button and leave all the options ticked. You sometimes have to load the template twice for it to load the effects properly.
OK, I’ve just worked out a way round this and am working on the update now. There’ll soon be a button to switch between ‘Classic’ and ‘New / Macro’ effects on the drop down menus.
The update is now live!
Awesome!! Thanks for this
For some reason when I try to upload the .tsi for the new Mashy template nothing comes up in Traktor. Old one is working though. Is the mapping to traktor the same for both? Im extremely new to Lemur (under 24 hours since i got it).
Thanks.
The TSI’s been updated but only to include the new effects in the settings. All the mappings are the same. You can still use the old one but you’ll need to add the new effects manually. Go to Preferences > Effects and add them from the list on the left. Just don’t add the Filter and Filter92 effects.
Strange you’re having trouble loading the TSI though. Remember to load it through ‘Import’ rather than ‘Add’.
Links Anyone?
If you have trouble downloading from this page, try here: http://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/246/
i have tried creating an acct…..logged in. says im not logged in. how do i get this file?
The link should appear in the download section of this page, but some people still have trouble with this. I’ll email you the direct links instead.
awesome, but still the mash and slice modes are not working…all the other stuff works fine for me anyone there who can help me out with that?
thnx
greetings
If you’re using an older version of Traktor (2.1.3 to 2.5), please try downloading the file again and re-importing. I’d had the newer version on there by mistake.
When importing the TSI, make sure you have the Effects box ticked when the pop-up window appears.
You may also need to import the TSI twice for it to load the effects properly.
Hi the latest version 2.6 crashes in Windows 7 64 Bit. I can’t seem to find the Feb 2013 version available for download.
I’ve seen elsewhere that it’s compatible with Lemur editor 3.2.2 but I can’t find it online to download it.
Any help would be appreciated.
The latest version of the template (for Traktor v2.6) should definitely load using the latest version of the Lemur Editor (v4.0.3) in Windows 7 64bit. Are you using the latest Lemur Editor version?
Hey, Thanks for the prompt response.
Yep I’m using v4.0.3. I just uninstalled and downloaded the latest version direct from http://liine.net/ to be sure and still no luck. It crashes immediately after attempting to open the template.
Every version of the template I’ve downloaded (from various sites) has Thursday, 13 December 2012, 12:56:32 PM as the last modified date. But I’ve seen that an update was made in Feb 13 to address the crashing issue – I can’t seem to find a version with a Feb 13 Modified date.
The one available on this page (for Traktor 2.6) is the one that’s been recently fixed. ignore the modified date though – it’s still showing 13th Dec but this is definitely the working updated file. Sorry for the confusion here.
The other option, if loading it through the Editor isn’t working, is to load it through iTunes: http://youtu.be/H47VEAJ9EqM
Thanks. Still no luck. I tried the 2.1 version also just in case. But that didn’t work either. The sample template provided with the Lemur installation files did work
I’ll try itunes.
Thanks, b
Sorry to hear you’re having all this trouble. I hope it works for you through iTunes. As I can’t replicate the crash here doing the same thing (with the same versions of everything) I don’t think I can be much more help I’m afraid.
Hey Andrew,
Just did the 2.6 update.
And I finally get all FX list properly synch between ipad and traktor.
I have just understand that FX list could be updated and fx items could be arranged in desired order.
I had to remove 2 FX from the “Pre-Selected Effects” list: “Filter” and “Filter:92″.
(I had now understand what you had already mentioned about FX list in my respond to my previous post… I feel a bit bad but got it right now).
Normal FX and new FX appears all in proper order and well activated when selected from Mashy on ipad (after using the “Shift” to enter normal or new FX list).
Thanks a lot!
Glad to hear you got it all working with 2.6
Yes, the Filter and Filter:92 effects are missing from the dropdown in Lemur so you do need to remove them from your loaded FX in Traktor for all the rest of the effects to ‘line up’ properly with the drop-down menu in Lemur. Traktor has 34 effects and the maximum number of items you’re allowed in a Lemur drop-down menu is 32. So I missed them out of the Lemur menu as you already have a filter built in to Traktor.
Anyway, have fun!
Much fun to play with Mashy
Thank you really much Andrew!!!
You’re welcome!
Hi ,
Firstly great template! Thanks a bunch.
Secondly I’m also having trouble with the “Prepare” Tab.. What is meant in the comment above here? I just have blank pads, and nothing happening in Traktor. Can i maybe please have a step-by-step on how to get this running?? All the rest works perfectly.
Thanks a bunch!
Gr, Martin.
Thanks Martin! It sounds like you haven’t selected the In & Out ports for the second page of the TSI. When you import the TSI into Traktor, it loads two sets of controls: one for the ‘Perform’ pages (Decks A/B & C/D) and one for the ‘Prepare’ page. Click Preferences > Controller Manager and click the ‘Device’ drop-down menu. You should see two TSIs loaded. Make sure that you’ve selected the correct In Port and Out Port for each of these (ie., TouchOSC Bridge or whatever method you’re using to connect your iPad to your computer). Hope this helps.
Sorry, I mentioned TouchOSC Bridge. I meant to say, ‘Daemon Input 0′ and ‘Daemon Output 0′. I was looking at the wrong template!
Hi Andrew, I’m having trouble with the EQs and Filter. They seem to be returning back to neutral automatically. Is there any way to change this if its the intended purpose? Its seems to render the reset buttons useless if they automatically reset if not held down in position.
I’m using a PC version of Traktor. I look forward to your response.
B
Hmm strange. No, this isn’t the intended purpose. They should stay where you left them!
Do you use any other MIDI controllers? I’m just wondering if you have something else which is sending the same MIDI CC as the reset buttons perhaps?
I rarely check the templates on PC I’m afraid as I tend to use Mac more often. Last time I checked everything was fine but I haven’t checked it yet on Traktor 2.6 (I’m assuming you’re using the latest version). I’ll let you know if I encounter any similar problems.
Thanks for letting me know about this. Yes, I’m getting the same problem here too, although only if I move the dials down. Moving them up, they stay where they should be.
This is something I need to look at. I’ll post here and on the Facebook page when it’s fixed.
Much appreciated. Yep 2.6. I have a gig in a couple of days. Any updates you can make in the meantime would be appreciated.:)
Thanks for looking into it Andrew!
b
No worries. I’m still not sure what the problem is but I’ve made a temporary fix. You can download the TSI here: http://digitaldjtools.net/downloads/Mashy_Lemur_Traktor2.6_fix.tsi
I’ve removed all the MIDI Out commands for the dials, so you won’t get any feedback to the dials on Lemur if you move them with the mouse in Traktor. The Reset buttons won’t work either, but it will at least allow you to move all the EQ and Filter dials without them mysteriously resetting themselves again.
As for what’s causing this, it’s weird. It only happens on PC and it’s only with Lemur. I get the same problem when starting a template from scratch in Lemur and assigning a control to any of Traktor’s dials. They just want to reset themselves back to the middle. No problems in TouchOSC (so it can’t be a Traktor bug) and the Lemur template is the same for Mac and PC.
Anyway, I hope losing the feedback on the dials isn’t too inconvenient. I’ll continue to look into a better fix for this.
Thanks. I’ll give it a shot. I’ve used Mashy2 TouchOSC for the last year or so and loved it. With the 2.6 Traktor update i thought I’d switch to Lemur to avoid having to pre-map the new filters.
I look forward to a future update. Hopefully you can solve it. Good luck,
Hi Andrew, I should also note I experienced issues with Mash and Slice. The first four buttons from the left don’t activate the effect on. The right most button for each seems to work (Deck A example).
OK, I’ll have a look at that.
I’ve found a better fix for the original issue though. It’s something to do with MIDI feedback when using just one virtual MIDI port, so the way to fix it is to use separate Virtual MIDI ports for MIDI In and MIDI Out.
If you’re using LoopMIDI, click the + button to create another Virtual MIDI port. We’ll call them ‘Port 1′ and ‘Port 2′ In your Lemur MIDI settings, set the the ‘MIDI From’ to Port 1 and ‘MIDI to’ to Port 2. Then in Traktor, just set the ‘In Port’ to Port 2 and the ‘Out Port’ to Port 1.
Thanks I’ll give that a shot a let you know.
That worked thanks!
Hmm.. I can’t seem to replicate the problem you’re having with Mash and Slice. Do you get a blue CTRL light in Traktor when you press the buttons? I’m guessing the correct Effects are loaded but you’re not seeing the FX light turn on in Traktor when you press the button? STrange that it’s doing this on button 5 and not the others…
Yep I get a CTRL light. The correct effects are loaded and the effect slider updates also. The FX light doesn’t turn on though. And yes strange that button 5 works correctly and not the others :s
Modifying the virtual midi ports corrected this issue also
Happy days. Thanks for the support Andrew. Getting late in Melbourne. Time for Zzzzz
Excellent! Pleased to hear it’s all working for you now